In Part 2, Kevin Koski explains how he once carried 14.5 liters of water across a 47-mile dry stretch in 102-degree heat, which is either impressive engineering or a cautionary tale, and possibly both. There is a smoked trout that Kevin is reasonably sure he received because a married woman was admiring his hiking legs a little too enthusiastically. There is a scaled 30-foot sandstone cliff that Kevin describes, with admirable understatement, as pretty sketchy. There is a sabbatical philosophy involving the literal opposite of hope. And there is a quieter, more serious moment in the middle of all of it — a permit given up, 13 days with his mother, and a trail picked back up exactly where she wanted him to be.

This half also covers Kevin's retirement countdown (seven months and counting), his book-in-progress, a Bigfoot investigation that yields nothing but blurry photos, and the correct way to negotiate a multi-month sabbatical from a stable engineering job, which involves never once using the word 'hope.' If you haven't listened to Part 1 yet, start there — it dropped 10 minutes ago.

Show Notes

About the Guest


Kevin Koski — The Animal — is a nuclear engineer for the U.S. Navy and the creator of the Four Corners Loop, a roughly 2,400-mile self-designed route through the American Southwest. He has hiked the CDT (2004), the PCT (2014), and over 11,000 miles of trail across Washington State. He retires from the Navy next February at 51 and plans to hike the Arizona Trail to celebrate.

What's Covered in Part 2


The Sabbatical Philosophy

Proving the Loop — Permit, Interruption, Return


Fourteen and a Half Liters


The 54-Mile Stretch and the Owl Biologists


The Smoked Trout


The 30-Foot Cliff


Wolves, Bears, and an American Serengeti


Bigfoot Status: Inconclusive


The Book


Pay It Forward — Washington Trails Association & Mountain Rescue


Links & Resources



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